Jon Beasley-Murrey joined us via Google Hangouts today to discuss his experience using Wikipedia as a teaching tool. What was one thing that resonated with you about the discussion?
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collector 9:50 pm on March 5, 2018 Permalink |
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At first I was suspicious of the tool, but now I recognize that it is an extraordinary learning tool
Lilia Gomez 1:11 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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The student can work collaboratively, improving what already exists. plan it as a school activity by teams where the main objective is to improve an article.
Laura 2:13 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Yo publiqué esto, pero no aparece mi nombre, sino collector…¿por qué?
Alan Levine 3:29 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Apologies Laura, When you use Acumuladar, it uses a secret account that it carries over here. I need to fix that bug!
Marisol Luna Rizo 2:26 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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The wikis help the students to the appropriation of the content considering their own capacity and effort; as well as sharing it in a global and collaborative way.
I consider it a good didactic learning strategy.
Araceli 2:48 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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I enjoyed the Jon presentation…it let me know the potential that thins kind of work can do for our students and for to know a innovative way to learn, and to teach.
Thanks
Jose Luis Chavez 4:39 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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The teacher transmits his knowledge to the students through various means, techniques, and support tools; being he, the source of knowledge, and the student a simple unlimited receiver of the same. Then, we can use Wikimedia as a support resource for our face-to-face classes and we can get a great advantage.
Cesar Lozano 9:52 pm on March 5, 2018 Permalink |
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The didactic proposal and the attitude of the students, I think not all teachers would aventure to use wikipedia without knowing the potential of collaborative work
Gerardo Varela 10:43 pm on March 5, 2018 Permalink |
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Creo que la experiencia nos da muchas cuestiones para reflexionar acerca de las herramientas que utilizamos en nuestra práctica docente.
Primeramente, los wikis, por una parte se podría pensar que son una herramienta obsoleta, por otra que no es confiable, pero sigue siendo una excelente opción para recabar y compartir información en muchas instituciones.
Como producción en el área académica, es necesario considerar muchos factores, como los objetivos de aprendizaje, los conocimientos a desarrollar y la correcta fundamentación por parte de los estudiantes y que comprendan el sentido de colaboración.
collector 11:22 pm on March 5, 2018 Permalink |
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I was wondering about the reaction from others teachers to this experience. Maybe young people is more receptive to innovation than older people.
Fabiola de Santos Avila 11:23 pm on March 5, 2018 Permalink |
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It was me, no collector in the past post. Sorry
DrGudinho 11:33 pm on March 5, 2018 Permalink |
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It was fun to listen to a professor that changed his vision of the very same resource: I think that many of the teachers that hate the possibility of use Wikipedia in the Universidad de Guadalajara can change too, and become users and contributors of the greatest enciclopedia of the world’s history.
collector 11:33 pm on March 5, 2018 Permalink |
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Diego Ramos: Wikis are a tool that allows to develop the user-student as a creator, or at least move from his passive state to become a prosumer. From something that passionate you how to create a wiki about your favorite series or even provide data related to the scientific field. The best thing is that it is open and promotes collective intelligence.
Ignacio Robles 11:59 pm on March 5, 2018 Permalink |
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After hearing Jon Beasley, I agree that Wikipedia is a collaborative space to generate content and even more to share material for educational purposes to students from stealing more and more of such collaborative knowledge.
Diane 12:14 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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I believe that the importance of students participating, lose the fear of making their research known, and above all that they realize how valuable their contribution is.
Faviola Castillo 12:16 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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After hearing about Jon experience, I realized I didn’t know much about Wikipedia. The exploring session also helped out.
After some time doing research and reading articles, I came up with some ideas for the courses I teach. Wrote them down and see if I can put them in practice soon. For example, I found some gaps on fire ecology in Spanish. It would be interesting to contribute as students, to construct a type of glossary on the fire ecology subject…perhaps students will be more interested in homework and learning if they have the stimulus of sharing with the academia, managers, and others their knowledge.
Aristóteles Dávila 12:19 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Today´s lesson:
Don´t doubt about all the things you already heard are unreliable, first try to change it and make it a better option…
Teresa Limon 12:26 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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We as academics, must be realistics about the fact that wikipedia is the most popular iinformation source between our students… so, we must do something about it.
I had never thought about the idea of asking my students about improve the information that they get in that source
Sarahi Quintero 12:30 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Personally, I found Jon’s opinion very interesting. Knowing now that I had a misconception of wikipedia and now that my perception has changed, I’m looking forward on how I can contribute.
Angelina Vallin 1:25 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Jon comentaba que cuando inició con el uso de Wikipedia desconfiaba de los contenidos y que ahora sigue desconfiando, sin embargo, en la medida en que todos colaboremos enriqueciendo el sitio y mejorando los contenidos existentes se irá fortaleciendo y los contenidos serán confiables.
Mi percepción de Wikipedia es que puede ser un referente apropiado dependiendo del tipo y propósito de los trabajos o escritos que estemos generando.
ElmoreGuevara 1:30 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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I still consider Wikipedia a good tool for the very beginning research process.
Armando 1:36 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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After Jon and the first day I think that Wikipedia iis a good experience because is a good tool for students and teachers that can create and recreate knowledge.
Wikipedia could be the first step to get information but has to be evaluated before used as a good reference.
We will always have thinks to do in wikipedia (créate,edition, evaluation, etc.).
Agustin Martinez 1:37 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Wikipedia is a great tool but its use must be accompanied by common sense. There are sensitive issues in which opinions are divided into two irreconcilables groups; and what you observe is a war of editions in wikipedia, in those cases when common sense and prudence have to save the situation.
Alejandra Moya 1:39 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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El como pasó de ser un escéptico total al uso de Wikipedia en la educación, a un promotor del mismo, dejando en claro que no se debe ver a este recurso como una mala fuente de información, pero dejando en claro que no puede ser ésta nuestra fuente de información principal.
Marlon Omar Navarro Torres 1:49 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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The conversation of Jon Beasley-Murrey was very interesting, I talk about things I had not thought about how to work with students to accelerate their skills as researchers, however, I am very impressed that you have said that Wikipedia is not an platform for the debate. For the formation of the career in which I work (Philosophy) the debate is the core part of the training. I understand that Wikipedia is a tool for consultation and not dialogical, but could that part also be opened for discussion in Wikipedia?
Greetings to all !!
Patricia Sánchez Rosario 1:57 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Permite al estudiante “ser creativo” y mandarlos de misiones al mundo, produciendo conocimiento de manera pública. Así como la importancia de las instrucciones hacia ellos y la selección de los temas a escribir por parte de él.
Rosario Ruiz 2:30 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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The exercises carried out during the course and the talk given by Bryan and Jon, I was excited because it shows that by “supporting the construction of knowledge in collaboration” and make it available to the public via a wiki, increase the chances of improving education.
Obdulia Alcalá 2:53 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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I had never imagined to use Wikipedia as a tool for collaborative learning. I have a question: How a common person can know that an article was valided? I think that references are not the only way. Anyone can copy and paste them.
Rosa Rosales 3:18 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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In Wikipedia a community of work is generated for the educational-informative purpose, of easy accessibility that requires serious supervision of those who contribute there … it is another “AGORA” of the free internet.
Romy Florencia Hernández Pérez 3:34 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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I think the most valuable thing is to have the openness to change the perspective regarding this tool, in addition to the use by the students and their evolution.
Jess Escoto 3:44 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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I was a skeptic about wikipedia, but after Jon Beasley- Murrey’s presentation I changed my mind. I now thing that tool can be an extraordinary method to share knowledge. #muraludg
Eduardo Quintana 4:04 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Creó un abre una puerta a los docentes y estudiantes escépticos a Wikipedia pues una oportunidad para construir conocimiento más allá del aula dejando abierta la puerta para que su vez la apliquen constantemente y, posiblemente, la repliquen con sus futuros estudiantes
Emilio Cruz 4:07 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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The fact that he said he is still skeptical about Wikipedia is something I relate to. While you can find very good info on the platform, you can also find a lot of misleading information, and something very important is to teach the students to distinguish when you reliable sources and how to improve the information.
Guille Lopez 4:28 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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I found it very interesting and educational wikipedia is a tool that allows us to document and contribute information that increases knowledge.
Neri González 4:28 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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For me it served to reinforce the idea that Wikipedia can be a valuable didactic tool, as well a way of working to structure and provide content, as in the case they presented
Rosalinda Torres 4:29 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Muy interesante, especialmente descubrir que Wikipedia tiene muchos elementos con los que se puede trabajar.
Abraham Aguilar 4:51 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Initially wikipedia was created to share articles created by users and its creators did not think that in the future they would have problems with the reliability of the information, perhaps because it is thought that a wiki can not have scientific quality and as a result of this situation has generated a impressive amount of work intended to correct and edit the articles that are already in wikipedia.
I think eventually the information will be corrected based on the rules of wikipedia but still take longer to get rid of the bad impressions that caused at the beginning.
Maybe we just have to let it grow and mature like any edible fruit .. 🙂
Maria Figueroa 5:12 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Thanks to the conference with Jon Beasley-Murray I understood that wikipedia can be seen with skepticism when you only know the points that you need to work, but that the benefits are that you can leave valuable contributions that contribute to the generation of knowledge. Now I look at this tool as the opportunity for our students to be active participants who leave their mark.
Javier Cruz 5:30 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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For me reliability of the information presented was a limitation overcome with the experience shared by the guest. It’s incredible the potential of possibilities for the work involving students’ initiative and creativity.
Daniel Rosas 5:34 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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I think that the use of Wikipedia to refer an investigation is still a risk, however, the potential it offers to improve its content is good. Collaborative work strategies in class are a good tool
Melchor 5:44 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Wikipedia it’s a tool wich support us with teaching and Learning experience, having advantage of uploading specialized articles.
Iris Pérez 6:14 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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I think Wikipedia it’s a good tool to collaborative work, but it needs to continue evolving to be considered a totally reliable research tool.
Searching the web I found an interesting fact that highlights the gender gap that exists in Wikipedia, since currently only 13% of the editors are women. This has result in a proposal called wikimujeres, led by a group of women Wikipedia users concerned about the diversity and neutrality of the contents that are published.
@csemipresencial 9:29 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Collaborative learning and good tools for improve active learning could be together. We change our perspective about wikipedia and possibilities for constructivism with cognitive goals.
Gaby 11:59 am on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Me gustó cómo pasó de ser una persona que no solía usar y ni creía que podía editar Wikipedia a un éxito. Me llamó la atención la forma en que sus estudiantes reaccionaron incluso cuando el “grupo misterioso” de Wikipedia les hizo comentarios al respecto porQue eso significa que hay un trabajo serio y con investigación.
Gaby 12:01 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Me gustó cómo pasó de ser una persona que no solía usar y ni creía que podía editar Wikipedia a un éxito. Me llamó la atención la forma en que sus estudiantes reaccionaron incluso cuando el “grupo misterioso” de Wikipedia les hizo comentarios al respecto porQue eso significa que hay un trabajo serio y con investigación.
Irene Cossio 12:09 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Nunca hubiera imaginado qué Wikipedia fuera una herramienta tan útil para mis alumnos;
El acceder e indagar qué información es verídica u con fundamento y cuál no, es aprendizaje….
El editar y aportar información para un tema específico, es aprendizaje…
Utilizar wikipedia como un referenciador ,es aprendizaje….
Así que me encanta!!
Luisfher 12:41 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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I think is a good idea to work in wikipedia. Students could see it as a contribution to our city, country or world. It’s a colaborative work. Altought sometimes they would want to see their names in things they made.
Gaby Limón 1:02 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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To find out Wikipedia is a useful tool in open education was a surprise for me. I would never imagine that you could improve their articles as Jon and his students did.
Leobardo Cuevas Alvarez 1:47 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Me parece que fue interesante la manera como abordo la utilidad de ina herramienta que se ha venido consolidando por la comunidad usuaria y quiza sea el arbitraje mas duro sobre los contenidos. Aunque hay de todo, articulos aun muy febiles y articulos que han madurado
Betsabé Muñoz 2:01 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Al igual que Jon Beasley, hasta la platica sobre wikipedia, tenia la misma opinión. Es muy interesante escuchar la aceptación que ha tenido Wikipedia, ahora en el idioma español se puede alimentar y fundamentar los recursos con ayuda de los estudiantes en el que se genera el aprendizaje colaborativo.
Villafania 2:20 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Consideró que wikipedia es una herramienta útil, nada más como toda información de la web hay que considerarla y verificar si puede ser primario. Lo interesante es que podemos contribuir para mejorar la información que está publicado en este espacio.
Karina Rodriguez 2:56 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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Jon mencioned that there is a possibility that an article could get improve or get worse (and is totally normal, if is a collective work). So, we should consider those cases
, and always get a critical point of view, specially about initial articles.
Laura Alfaro 3:22 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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The fact that is not just only leave the students to do the Wikipedia article, but you have to get involved in the task. I have looked Wikipedia as a quick consultation page, but now I know that is much more than that. Thank you!
Omar 3:27 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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It really was interesting in using the application. I almost was about to get to elaborate one with my students and take advantage of my distance from them these days.
Thank you
Alma luz Soltero S 3:31 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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One comment with which I totally agree, is that “the students will use it in any way” so I think it is neccesary that I can motivate them to use the tool in the most appropriate way possible, that is my challenge
Gaby Limon 3:38 pm on March 6, 2018 Permalink |
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To find out that Wikipedia is a very useful tool in open education was a surprise for me. I would never imagine that someone alse could improve the articles as Jon and their students did